What If Zamasu took GT Goku’s body Part 2 (Before you go forward, I give someone in this What-If a title they did not have in the original story. Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help, Post | In the Anime, It is basically due to a time loop. Goku Black would also be able to pass a fingerprint test and use Goku’s ID, which are two of the strongest qualifications you can have as a Goku. | Terms After summoning Grand Zeno in the divergent future timeline to erase Zamasu, the remainder of Super is dedicated to the Tournament of Power, where Goku and the Z Fighters are expressly forbidden from using lethal force against their opponents. The original inspiration was Hong Kong martial arts films, including Bruce Lee films such as Enter the Dragon (1973) and Jackie Chan films such as Drunken Master (1978). I cannot figure out what would motivate manga Zamasu to … The first time came in the Namek/Frieza saga when Goku faced off against Captain Ginyu. Because Goku kicked the shit out of him, and, https://myanimelist.net/profile/SaiyanZ?q=SaiyanZ. KariosStuff 6,568 views. The reason this doesn't work and is a contradiction to his character is because if he wanted a strong body, he should've gone after stronger people like any of the 12 Gods of Destruction or Whis or Vados or the Grand Priest or Zeno, etc. But in this part, Goku Black returns to the Future (GT) And So, Years have passed since Z’s End and GT’s beginning. Upon first acquiring Goku's body, why didn't Zamasu inherit all of his techniques/powers/abilities from the get go? They should also be 4D, or they would have undoubtedly died. However, after killing the original present Gowasu, he wore his former master's matching set of gold and green Potara earrings. Timeline A: "Original" timeline. Zamasu then went and learned about Goku from the guy who knows everything, as well as the super dragonballs. Although still, he did not use it in anime series, in the manga world, he did use it. Modified by Hujio. Goku’s KaioKen in Dragon Ball. During the combat scene, Trunks transforms into a somewhat new form of … ProLight Style by Ian Bradley. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Because of his Saiyan ability to get stronger after a fight. The saiyan ability of zenkai was used to bond him to the body more. As the cells regenerated, it was more HIS body. He is fairly tall and lean in build with pale green skin, gray irises, and a tall white Mohawk that curves forward to hang over the right side of his face. During the next Arc after Goku healed up from his fight against the Saiyans. Trunks goes back to the past and creates a divergence in the original (Timeline A) timeline. Zamasu had previously discarded his own body in "Dragon Ball Super" and traded it off with Son Goku's. The whole infographic image is kinda wrong then, @rukelnikovftw: Three Timelines ... A ,B, C, Timeline A : Main Timeline ... Future Trunks comes , gives Goku medicine , tells them about Androids .... for the rest of the Story watch DBZ, Timeline B : Future Trunks Timeline ... Goku dies of Heart Virus , Androids kill all Z Fighters , Trunks goes to Timeline A , gets stronger , comes back , kills 17 and 18 and Later Imperfect Cell, Timeline C : Perfect Cell's Original Timeline . Goku, and Dragon Ball in general, evolved from one of Akira Toriyama's earlier one-shot series called Dragon Boy.In this story, the protagonist looks a lot like Goku, but has a pair of wings. Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited, Privacy The Movies Black explained that he was infact the Zamasu who fought Goku, and that is what made him take Goku's body. So what Timeline's Zamasu got Goku's Body ? After meeting Goku Black, Future Zamasu has truly fallen into the depths of evil, speaking of humans and of the Saiyans as \"mere mortals\" who are inferior to him.Like Goku Black, he has the goal of ridding the entire u… We have no other Info, @dsb: see the gray text in that middle area of the image? Zamasu later suggests to Gowasu that they wipe out the primitive and violent mortals on Planet Babari. After injuring himself to cripple Goku, Ginyu used his body-switching power to switch places with Goku. Black arrives to the new timeline, kills Gowasu and convinces Zamasu from that timeline to work as a team for the "Zero Mortals" plan, Zamasu becomes immortal, etc etc. But once we found out who he was (literally Goku, before Zamasu possessed his body), he became a hell of a lot less interesting. Really? Forum Rules. He made his way to Planet Namek. In the series' original, unaltered timeline, Zamasu hijacked series protagonist Son Goku's mortal body using the Super Dragon Balls as part of his "Zero Mortals" plan to attain supreme power and wipe out all mortal beings. Please Enjoy. Similar to his partner, Goku Black (an alternate Zamasu who stole Goku's body), the future version of Zamasu was distrustful of mortals and gods, however, he described himself as not having the will to act on his desires. Vegito knew about Zamasu's weakness, he had to wear Zamasu's body down enough to the point the immortality is useless. This timeline's Future Trunks wants to go to a Different Timeline after he beats his timeline's 17 and 18 , But Cell kills him , gets in Time Machine , gets in Timeline A and becomes Super Perfect Cell, Possible Timeline D :Future Trunks from Timeline C possibly wanted to go to this timeline to tell the past Z Fighters how to beat the Androids . It also helps foreshadow the Zamasu twist. How does Zamasu get Goku Black/Future Goku's body if he is already dead? by HeroR » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:17 am, Post And the thing is that Goku is more of a prodigy than Gohan, at least in Zamasu's eyes. Seriously, at this point I think Freeza's been surpassed as the Dragon Ball franchise's most evil villain. RELATED: Dragon Ball: Why Krillin Is Secretly the Franchise's Best Character. This secretly drives Zamasu to hate the gods as well for not doing anything about mortals. but since Zamasu is immortal, he come back as a spirit which then takes over the universe. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. His original appearance is the same as his future timeline counterpart, being an above-average height Kai of slim built and green skin, and with a white Mohawk. As vile as he was, he never committed genocide on his own people like Goku Black has. Also, Goku, Trunks and Vegeta survived a blast from Zamasu. Not only would he have great power, he wouldn't have to deal with using a mortal body and can not be ashamed of using one. That's basically the way that the "original" events went, Beerus and Whis head to U10 for whatever reason (either to investigate zamasu or just to visit gowasu), Goku tags along with them and meets zamasu, The scenes with the alien race then occur where Zamasu's hatred of humanity is certified, He learns about goku from Zuno and locates the Super DBs, Used them to become goku black and kill goku's family, then escapes to future trunks's timeline, Teams with Future Zamasu and wreck's most of the multiverse in trunk's timeline by murdering the kaioshins of each universe, Then the events unfold from episodes 47-onwards. by Lord Frieza » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:11 pm, Post I mean, sure, I thought he was pretty cool when he first showed up. What was strange is that he is depicted taking Goku's body during the Farming session, which happened long before Zamasu's fight. We have a statement backed up by 2 feats and a statement from the author to support it. Why would goku go to universe 10 to fight zamasu ? The Dangerous Reason Vegeta Will NEVER use Super Saiyan 3 - Duration: 6:40. It’s the perfect way of representing Zamasu’s snatching of Goku’s body. 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attacks 1.2 Meteor Attack 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Defeat 3.5 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) … @edbeatle: Most Complicated s*it in entire Dragon ball history But i do get it now .. Zamasu was only able to reach Rose once he could use the body as naturally as his own. Future Trunk's Future Zamasu became immortal. by SaiyanZ » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:48 pm. ZAMASU swaps his body with Goku English Dubbed - Duration: 1:39. He wears a slim violet long-sleeve shirt, baggy blue pants, white boots, a dark grey Supreme Kai vest with yellow trimming, and a pale blue sash folded over his abdomen. The one we see our main characters in (where we see them investigate zamasu) is the altered timeline. Thanks, @edbeatle: Most Complicated s*it in entire Dragon ball history. His lean body, thin face, and less defined hairstyle contrasts him perfectly with the bulkier, fuller Goku. Gowasu complimented him on the delicious tea: only those pure of heart can make such good tea, which proves Zamasu's mind was at peace, so he could continue to train his mind and body in order to silently watch over mortals. How would he even know him ? Zamasu is a character from Dragon Ball series, he appears in Dragon Ball Super as the main antagonist of his own arc. It's because he thought that Goku's body and powers are meant to belong to a god, not a mere mortal. As far as I know, there is no limit to the Super Dragon Balls. If you look at both characters, you’ll realize Goku Black actually takes his body shape from Zamasu. I think the time when main timeline goku and altered main timeline goku fought zamasu is same .. though for different reasons .... which means .. the timeline shift stated when Trunks came back to the past .. not before. But there is ONE problem .. Unfortunately, it wasn’t able to secure the victory for Goku. Timeline C: The divergence caused by Trunks' warning catch the attention from Beerus and Whis, (events as we know them). Ginyu was a strong opponent but his true power was being able to switch bodies with people, and he did exactly that in order to gain Goku's strength. Unlike his alternate timeline counterpart, he also possesses dark lines around his eyes and wears a green Potara earring on his left e… by Gog » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:54 pm, Post Zamasu was first seen to push a tea tray, which he used to serve tea to his master, the senior Kaiōshin Gowasu. The Anime without filler is canon. The fusion of an immortal being with a mortal being produces unpredictable effects. Did Gohan even tap into godhood like Goku? Zamasu being taught about mortals and Kaiōshin's duty. Ever tried to get Cell's arc time shenanigans? by Freeza9000 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:33 pm, Post Conception and creation. This would also explain why Immortal zamasu was so protective of his black counter part because they share one life. After stealing the original present Goku's body, it underwent physical changes. by Freeza9000 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:42 pm, Post His wish as we all know consisted of him (Zamasu Main) swapping bodies with Goku of the main timeine (Goku in this timeline was back home after the tournament that was held between U6 and U7 and was working as a farmer when the body swap happened). It's possible that if Goku got this body back, he would be able to use Rose due to Zamasu… so I think when he became a God of destruction, it's the destruction energy that gives Black his pink hair instead of blue, and why a body taken from goku before obtaining god powers surpassed the modern goku we saw, but was not quite the average God of destruction level or even Destruction … by SaiyanZ » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:11 pm, Post In Dragon Ball Super manga, during Goku’s final battle against Fused Zamasu, Saiyan transformed into Perfected Super Saiyan Blue state and concentrated all of his energy to his hand which destroyed almost half of Fused Zamasu’s body without doing anything. Allowing him to take out Napa and fight on par with the stronger Saiyan Vegeta. Gowasu then uses the Time Ring to allow him and Zamasu to travel to the future of Babari. by Freeza9000 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:09 pm, Post It is here Zamasu learns about Goku in the anime. The Saiyan biology trait doesn't work either because anyone can get stronger through training. It's Future Trunk's timeline original Zamasu that became Goku Black. Zamasu Main, now known as Goku Black then goes on to kill Goku (in Zamasu Main’s body) and slaughters his family. Gowasu, however, states that only Gods of Destruction can carry out that act. When trunks kills fused Zamasu, he destroys the body because of the mortality of Black Goku. Future Zamasu bears an identical appearance to his counterpart. Goku then learns about and visits/spars with Zamasu. Question Sorry if it was said in the anime and I just missed it, but I don't remember specifically how he swapped bodies with Goku, if he already had died of a heart disease. Otherwise, theres a catch, Goku went to spar with Zamasu BECAUSE Black had assaulted Future Trunks Timeline. Wiki. The explanation was the Ring of Time allowed him to exist independent of the past him who was killed by Beerus. The battle goes on with both Vegito & Zamasu trading blows. Zamasu is the level of fighter that could definitely require Goku to tap into his full Ultra Instinct power, but there is another big risk in doing so: The Universe Seed. To sum it up, the timeline black comes from is the "original" DB Super timeline. If it was as in the manga, its ok. Future trunks goes to the past, bringing Black with him, who then fights Goku. It was a move that destroyed any sense in his character. It was the worst time of the era. Warning: blood parts in this fic, so be prepared or turn back. They explained that it's a timeline similar to the original where Zamasu was killed but with the only difference Zamasu did succeed in killing Gowasu due to Beerus not interfering because Trunks never came back, they even made an image explanation, I'll post it later if you want. 1 Transformations 2 Story 3 Dragon Ball Game Appearances 4 Crossover Appearances 5 Trivia 6 See also Add a photo to this gallery Background Zamasu was formerly the North Kai of Universe 10, and was a witness of the countless wars done by mortals. Ultimately, what puts Goku Black/Zamasu over body-swapped Goku is that they last longer and are more impactful to their respective plotlines. Present Zamasu was killed by Beerus Future Zamasu became immortal and killed the Gods So what Timeline's Zamasu got Goku's Body ? The fact that he knew how to use the Kamehameha without ever witnessing it had me thinking that he knew how to use every single one of Goku's abilities when he first appeared as Black. Zamasu should without a doubt be 4D. Future Zamasu became immortal and killed the Gods. by SaiyanZ » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:54 pm, Post Another interesting happening in "Dragon Ball Super" Episode 61 is the battle. Most importantly, no matter which body Zamasu took, his expression and character are still his instead of the Saiyans to be fair. Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode. During the trip, he trained his body under intense gravity. In the Anime, Zamasu wanted to take Goku's body because he wanted revenge for humiliating him. After the end of universe tournament either Goku went to the universe 10 to have a spare fight with Zamasu or Zamasu finds out about Goku as in the manga with GodTube, Zamasu gets mad from the achieved power of mortals, goes evil, Zamasu succeeds in killing Gowasu and ascends to Kaioshin with the potara earrings, reunites Super dragon balls, steals Goku's body and kills him and his family, then uses the time ring to go to Timeline B. Timeline B: Future Trunks' timeline. 1:39. To be honest, I don't know why Black is so loved. Within the series, Zamasu is originally an apprentice Supreme Kai (界王神, Kaiōshin, lit. A powerful, yet familiar figure was fighting Goku, trying to kill him. by SaiyanZ » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:58 pm, Post So Vegito gives it everything he's got, but Zamasu proved to be a worthy opponent. "World King God") from Universe 10. I mean, again, it's LITERALLY Goku. 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